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	Carleton Engineering – Telecommunications OUAC CEH Remove	York Concurrent Education: Arts, Media, Performance & Design (BEd) OUAC YQ Remove
Your average, their wayrequired courses forced in
Published rangetheir exact wording	75–80%“75–80% (regular and co-op)”	77–87%“High 70s to mid-80s”
Required coursesforced into your top 6 — options are the row below	MCV4U MHF4U SCH4U SPH4U	No course codes parsed — see prerequisites
Choose one ofany of these satisfies it	—	—
Prerequisitesas published	Advanced Functions (MHF4U) Calculus (MCV4U) Chemistry (SCH4U) Physics (SPH4U) 2 best 4U/M courses +3 more on the program page	In this concurrent program, graduates receive a Bachelor of Education as well as a Bachelor's degree in their chosen subject of major interest. Students must apply by selecting both the York Faculty that they are applying to and +4 more on the program page
More than marks?supplementary application	Marks only	Yes Note: Many Arts, Media, Performance & Design programs require a subsequent supplementary evaluation (questionnaire, interview, portfolio and/or audition).Find out more at ampd.yorku.ca/apply. Usually closes before January 15
Co-op	Available	No
Degree	—	Bachelor of Arts/Bachelor of Education, BA/BEd, Bachelor of Fine Arts/Bachelor of Education, BFA/BEd
First-year intakewhere published	—	—
What you study	General or Integrated Engineering Information Technology Media and Communication Studies	Cinematics & Photography Creative Writing Drama Education Studies
What it is	You study the engineering behind systems that transmit voice, data, and video across networks and through the air. This combines hands-on design and math with practical knowledge of how communication technologies actually work in the real world. The program includes a mandatory co-op work term, so you gain industry experience alongside your classes. It suits people who want to build things but are drawn to how information moves rather than, say, power systems or structures.	You study an arts or media subject like drama, creative writing, fine art, or music while simultaneously completing teacher training. Unlike a regular arts degree followed by separate teacher certification, you earn both your subject degree and your teaching credential in one integrated program. This suits people who know they want to teach their artistic passion and want to combine the two paths from the start.
The door tomajors you reach through it	Applied to directly	Applied to directly
Entrance awardsat this campus, by average	16 published, 9 with no applicationfrom 75%See them	29 published, 4 with no applicationfrom 75%See them
Source	Carleton University on OUInfo	York University on OUInfo

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