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	Carleton Science – Non-Honours (3 years) OUAC CS Remove	York Concurrent Education: Science (BEd) OUAC YPC Remove
Your average, their wayrequired courses forced in
Published rangetheir exact wording	78%	77–87%“High 70s to mid-80s”
Required coursesforced into your top 6 — options are the row below	MHF4U SBI4U SCH4U	No course codes parsed — see prerequisites
Choose one ofany of these satisfies it	two of MCV4U, SES4U, SPH4U	—
Prerequisitesas published	Biology, Chemistry, Earth Sciences, and Neuroscience and Mental Health. Advanced Functions (MHF4U) Two credits from Calculus (MCV4U), Biology (SBI4U), Chemistry (SCH4U), Earth and Space Science (SES4U) or Physics (SPH4U) 3 best 4U/M courses Alternative Offers +2 more on the program page	In this concurrent program, graduates receive a Bachelor of Education as well as a Bachelor's degree in their chosen subject of major interest. Students must apply by selecting both the York Faculty that they are applying to and +7 more on the program page
More than marks?supplementary application	Marks only	Yes By applying for this concurrent education program and choosing your subject of major interest from the pull-down list, you will be considered for admission to both programs. Therefore, applicants should not use a subsequent application choice to apply to their subject of major interest separately. Graduates receive both a Bachelor of Education degree as well as a Bachelor's degree in their chosen subject of major interest. An online Faculty of Education Supplementary Information Form and supplemental fee are also required. Refer to the Faculty of Education website Usually closes before January 15
Co-op	No	No
Degree	—	Bachelor of Arts/Bachelor of Education, BA/BEd, Bachelor of Science/Bachelor of Education, BSc/BEd
First-year intakewhere published	—	—
What you study	Chemistry Geology Others in Physical Sciences Others in Subjects Related to Medicine	Biotechnology Chemistry Education Studies Mathematics
What it is	A Science Non-Honours degree lets you study physical sciences — chemistry, geology, and related fields — without committing to a specialized honours stream. You complete a three-year program with broader course choices and fewer upper-level requirements than an honours degree, giving you flexibility to explore different areas before specializing or applying to professional programs. This suits students who want a solid science foundation, aren't sure which specialization to pursue, or plan to move into medicine, health sciences, or graduate study.	This program lets you earn both a science degree and a teaching credential in four years, studying subjects like chemistry, physics, biology, or math alongside education theory and practice. Unlike a traditional separate degree followed by teacher training, you complete both simultaneously, so your science and teaching courses run in parallel from the start. It suits students who know they want to teach science in secondary school and want an integrated path that doesn't delay certification.
The door tomajors you reach through it	Applied to directly	Applied to directly
Entrance awardsat this campus, by average	16 published, 9 with no applicationfrom 75%See them	29 published, 4 with no applicationfrom 75%See them
Source	Carleton University on OUInfo	York University on OUInfo

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